121 – Spit! October 16, 2018

October 16, 2018

To open today’s show Scott deems David a “wave rider” (not a surfer) and they unpack Scott’s misuse of social media. The boys then cover the WSL’s European leg, why Julian’s new found motivation will yield a world title, Kaipo and Pete Mel’s blood feud, and why Scott’s new podcast will be available through the OWN network. Plus Dukes, Kooks, and much more! Enjoy!

This episode is sponsored by SpyOptic.com (use promo code “podcast”) and NeedEssentials.com

Special thanks to The House of Trestles for the gift of our recording studio. Visit HouseOfTrestles.com


How do you define a “surfer”? After our last pod . . .

Listeners email . . .


Congrats to Julian Wilson and Courtney Conologue for your victories in France.



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Today, I’m announcing that I will be stepping down as President of OWN, The Oprah Winfrey Network. Working for one of the greatest leaders in the world has truly been the most incredible opportunity in my career. I have learned and grown more over the past 10 years professionally than I did in the prior 20. The accomplishments over the last decade have been many – from ending the Oprah Winfrey Show, transitioning the company to a studio, moving to LA, and making OWN the most high-profile turnarounds in cable network history. What has made these many years of work so memorable and enjoyable are the people who I had the opportunity to work and partner with. My “Next Chapter” (as Oprah would say) is truly an opportunity of a lifetime. To marry my passion of surfing with my career is something that I never thought was possible or even imagageable 5 years ago. SUP, surfing, loving the ocean, were all things I’d never thought would be a part of my life. Now, it’s my life, my daily passion, and something that propels me into my next professional journey. Joining the World Surf League is something I never thought this kid from landlocked Oklahoma would say, but it’s happening. I’m beyond grateful tothe WSL for the chance to join the already exceptional team for this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. If I have learned one thing from Oprah over the past decade, it’s this: there is a “divine order” to the universe and our job is to get into that flow. We must LISTEN to what the universe is saying. So here I am. Marrying my passion with my career in this way is something only a higher power could forge for me. I’m humbled by this moment and still in a state of “I can’t believe this is happening!” But it is…. You’ll hear me say this a lot, but it’s true: #followyourpassion #liveyourpassion

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Scott’s pick:


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@solibailey maintaining control from start to finish. #WeeklyRaw #FeelsLikeFreedom

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David’s pick:

The Surf Channel is now available through Amazon Prime. Nearly all my childhood favorite surf films in one place!


Julian Wilson for finally delivering on his potential. Watch from the 5 minute mark to see Julian’s new found motivation.


Co-Host, Co-Producer: Scott Bass @BoardroomShow

Co-Host, Co-Producer: David Scales @David_Lee_Scales

  • Carbon 14

    It’s laughable to hear how Scott again so perfectly personifies the stereotyped and typical unaware and dominant american male (and surfer), unable to correctly point a location outside of the US (or pronounce a foreign first or last name). Portugal is not 45 minutes away from France, but more likely 8 hours. I’m sad to note in your conversation that us french still suffer from a terrible reputation abroad. We probably deserve it in many ways, notoriously being loud and arrogants pricks, in and outside of the ocean btw (I usually avoid and am ashamed of french behavior in foreign countries), but I would love to hear what stories or unfortunate encounters led you guys to dislike my fellow countrymen. This question is purely coming out of curiosity. I’d love you to share on this…Please note that this doesn’t stop me from listening to your conversations with great pleasure, being french teaches how to handle self-mockery…

    • Thanks, Carbon. I’ve only had lovely experiences with French people. Sometimes I think that people are referencing that “French people are rude” trope just to get a laugh. I’ve traveled in France a handful of times and never experienced it. Once, I was with an admittedly obnoxious friend (American), he’d shout to me from a distance on the metro or ask for alterations to be made to menu items in restaurants. Metro riders shoosh’d him and waiters sneered, and he interpreted them as being rude. After returning home he told stories about how rude French people were. The funny thing was, everyone who actually knew him, knew that his experience was entirely a reflection of his own behavior. I do believe that many stereotypes exist for valid reason, but I also believe that people, anywhere in the world, are generally kind if you treat them with sensitivity and respect.

      • Carbon 14

        Thanks for your thoughtful answer Dave, it is true that you generally get what you give. Making fun of stereotypes and “outsiders” gives us a sense of belonging to the tribe, as you pointed in the podcast. There are plenty of jokes to be made on french people, and rightfully so, especially if you hang around cities like Paris, where waiters or cab drivers are notoriously rude sometimes…this may come from the fact that we suck at speaking foreign languages and are unable to properly communicate. This limits the interactions you can have with foreign people. French can also be very pretentious at times, even here in surfing areas where the act of riding waves is not as mature as in south California. Anyway please tell Scott that he is welcome to come and change his idea on us anytime, who knows, maybe you guys will come one day to record an episode here around a good croissant, baguette and of course glass of good Bordeaux.

        • in tubo veritas

          And of course Scott will be welcome to enjoy 8 hours of an amazing surf coast and food on his way to France.

          But let me disagree in one thing.Surf scene in France is not immature at all.I think south of France surf is amongst the most surf rich cultures in the world and one of the oldest.

          • Carbon 14

            Sure, 60 + years of surfing in France can be considered old, but compared with the country’s whole (and heavy) history, surfing lifestyle’s still a rather small niche, embraced by few, while in Cali I felt that life revolved more around it, but that may only be my perception…

    • in tubo veritas

      Yeah..and a whole country called Spain is in the middle of those 8 hours..although this french fellow listener don’t seem to acknowledge it( just kidding )
      You know which spanish famous break is 45 minutes from France? Mundaka..which is amazingly ignored by Scott in his new map of Europe.

      I’ve been to france a handful of times, and also surfed there many times. Surfwise I don’t recall any incident different from any other surf destination.
      One thing its obvious ,French people like to be talked to in French, or rather not in english.Thats a fact you my like or not but considering we all have been imposed with english around the world I don’t think its that bad.

      Of course Paris is a whole different game but hey, have you tried to dialogue with a taxi driver in NY..

      • Carbon 14

        I have actually, and it went fine…but the guy seemed to come from India 🙂

    • Filipe’s Beard

      For my two cents: I’ve had nothing but positive experiences with French people in France, surfing in the Ments, Maldives, Bali and also here in Australia. I’ve never understood the negative stereotype. As others have stated, perhaps its just a reflection of a persons own personality and actions? (which would make me look good)

  • Filipe’s Beard

    First time to spitpodcast.com and can’t help but notice and chuckle at the difference of effort David is putting in here compared to the far superior, stylish and slick Surfsplendor.com website.

  • Teddy Allen

    After years of listening, I am now finally thinking about donating….with the expectation that 100% of my donation will be dedicated to enrolling Scott in a geography night class at the local community college. I had to rewind twice to do a quadruple check to confirm that Scott said Portugal was a 45 minute drive away from southern France.
    As for the definition of being a “surfer”, I think you guys have it 100% opposite. A person who catches waves and has no connection to the spiritual realm is simply a wave rider because by definition that is all they are doing: riding waves. On the other hand, a person who shares a natural connection and appreciation is a surfer. This difference implies that to be a “surfer” is multi-dimensional. The act of being a wave rider, is uni-dimensional. Of course it is the non-surfers in this world who manipulated what it means to be a surfer. If you need proof of my argument, just listen to Uncle Robbie in Rolling Thunder when he says, “ahhhh to be a surfah”. https://www.vaporvue.com/watch/760a62a5123816fe9120840bd022384f/trailer

    On a side note, to me a core value of being a surfer is rooted in environmental sustainability. This is the number one issue that is ignored in the surf world. How can anyone justify owning 100 boards a year as many pros do? Will these boards magically disappear? Nope. Filth. A real surfer would challenge the environmental impact that these boards have. Yet, instead, most, never utter a single word as if it is taboo to shame pro surfing. Real surfers consume less. Real surfers get stoked on less. Real surfers need less.

    just my 2 unsolicited cents…..

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